Prude
14-Jun-18 11:10 PM
which seemed solid at first, until they proved more unpredictable than they initially did?
so that's when the conveniently on-ice zariman tenno were brought out (I liked the nod to philosophical dualism there)
I'm guessing then it plays out like the lore originally seemed - they bring further success to the orokin war effort, before Natah who had infiltrated the orokin does her thing and has the tenno fuck them up
I'm wondering where in the timespan of all this marghulis was killed/the first tenno transference done
because in the titania quest, you learn marghulis was like some kind of botanist on earth before dealing with the tenno
and the implication in this quest is the forest-worlds and shit arose in the wake of the infestation sort of pushing the sentients back or whatever
and then to clean out the infestation on earth specifically, I think saryn prime was designed per her prime trailer
so that had to have happened relatively shortly after the first tenno + frame combo happened or something
but yeah it's weird because the sentients are on principle probably the good guys like you said
they saw the orokin's issues and didn't want it to fuck up other stuff
the orokin were clearly very amoral themselves because they did have to know what ballas was doing (even if it was ultimately for the purpose of fucking with them)
and there were many other such instances of them being sketchy
like how there was definitely some conspiracy to cover up the zariman incident and so forth
I'm guessing maybe marghulis was executed even because she had taken them out of cryosleep first and they didn't like that, but then they came around on it because of how useful they were to controlling the frames
that's sort of what i recall from TSD
what's also weird to me is how even as early as the scenes we see in flashbacks, with Ballas speaking to pre-umbra umbra, he's acknowledging he had partaken in some kind of betrayal
yet nothing had really happened yet because those were clearly the earliest days of the frames
I'm thinking the dax, who by merit of his son's comments was actually relatively cunning himself, had somehow pieced together the cooperation between Ballas and the sentients, but then was incapacitated for the whole infestation thing as retribution by Ballas before the secret got out
and that's why Ballas was so spiteful towards him - he came the closest to stopping him before we did, and he wasn't going to have his revenge against the orokin ruined
I hope umbra remains the only actual umbra, because I think thematically it doesn't make sense for every frame to have one like some people wanted
I think it works best as our pity "excal prime" in terms of gameplay + being unique for being the "primordial" warframe we found for the quest, of which I doubt there could really be any for every other frame since many had to have been produced WAY later
the umbra mods are cool though, just as a new kind of theme/polarity
oh cool, umbra can use any excal skin/helmet as well while retaining the scarf
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event would be cooperation with the grineer and corpus like in the Gravidus dilemma where we plow through the Tau system when it first comes out
